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Managers vs. Valets vs. Enforcers




Managers vs Valets vs Enforcers (my 50th blog on the site)

What once was so important, so vital has become null and void within the industry. Back when I was a kid almost every single wrestler was accompanied by some sort of support. Either a Manager, Valet or an Enforcer. Literally in every match there would be somebody at ringside.. now there are none. And boy it shows!

To give a wrestler a manager gave him a huge chance of getting over. Managers do what the talent cannot. If the guy can't cut promo's, the Manager does it for him... if he needs a helping hand to steal a win, the Manager does it for him... some even went as far as actually arranging travel plans for talent (Paul Ellering).  The Manager is there to cloak any weaknesses, alike what Paul Hayman did for Brock Lesnar during the "next big thing" push! Guys like Shawn Micheals,who had all the talent in the world just needed something to get noticed, her name was Sherri! What would the sport have been without Bobby Heenan, The Grand Wizard and Capt. Lou Albano???

Valets have completey died off, the closest resemblence of a Valet in today's product is Maria playing Zigglers Girlfreind. Nothing compared to how Valets used to use their bodys to gain the upper hand like Miss Elizabeth and Stacy Keibler did for their talent. Edge who was ready to break through the glass ceiling had a huge assist from Lita a few years ago. It could be said that Edge has a hell of a lot to thank Lita for and even further Vicki Guerrero for getting the guy over... over the moon! No doubt that Edge is an incredible talent, but his women have given him a big helping hand.

Enforcers are still around here and there but not enough. Regal has two (greedy boy) and it helps his character, but there is a big void in what was once a constant. How Legacy could use an enforcer in the group. A bit of muscle, a little brute has always been a great aid for heels who don't wanna get their hands dirty and hide bihind the big guy. Enforcers are like a heat seeking missile in helping guys get over and more importantly having an Enforcer or Bodyguard offers so many storyline and booking options. If the cowardly heel is playing scared of his opponent then booking the opp. vs the Enforcer is a great option. Further to that, the potential to turn the Enforcer against the nagging heel makes for an awesome program, just like what Batista finally turning on Triple H, which turned out to be one of the best storylines of the decade.

So when Managers, Valets and Enforcers bring so much to the table, are there few if any working our current product?

Jackson and Kozlov back-up Regal on the show that rarely peaks over a 1.0 rating... Vicki and Escoban has been given little air time as The Harts and The Birchill's are just as forgettable. That's it! well I supposed you could kind of count Legacy as Enforcers to Randy Orton... but its not enough! There were tag teams who had two mangers at times. Hell at times the managers were more important than the teams.

Amid rumours is that of Festus returning to action as the drugged up Bodyguard of CM Punk. Well I personally love this idea, as it adds another dimention to Punks character, developing his heel status to the next level. Imagine the heat he's get from fans who see their former favourite Festus being controlled by the drugs that Punk is feeding him? oohhh man that would be some hot shit right there!!! And then to eventually turn him on Punk when he's drug free? Great stuff... a no miss situation for the no creative brains of Team Creative....

An idea I recently had was to introduce Angelina Love as Punks new Girlfriend, who he helped through a drinking problem... it all adds to the uniqueness of such a character as Punk's.

I feel there are so many wrestlers out there who could benifit from some guidance.

So I have to wonder why when Creative are 'all about the shortcuts' why not take the ultimate shortcut?


This was Pocket!




Yogz

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11/5/2009 6:21:00 PM
I agree with putting Festus as CM Punks Bodyguard, would of been great during the Undertaker feud what with the Montreal Screwjob 2.0 but I still think it will work. CM Punk needs something more with his character there is only so many Superstars he can go up against and push his Straight edge gimick on before he runs out of momentum.

Punk isn't the biggest guy on the roster and although he has been booked to keep up with the bigger Superstars a larger Bodyguard would do wonders for him especially if he is drugged up to the eyeballs!

P.S. Ezeik with Kendrick was booked terribly. Ezeik & Kosloff with Regal is only slightly better in my opinion.

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SAVE__US.237

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11/5/2009 9:26:00 PM
One thing is that today people only look to managers, bodyguards, and valets to get people over. Savage had Elizabeth and Sherrie, Perfect had Heenan and Genius. Even guys who were over had managers and valets. There are the rare Edge and Lita/Vickie cases where an over person has a valet today. It's just good to get people to warm up to the idea.
   
WWEDXHardyFan

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11/6/2009 2:20:00 AM
Nice blog my friend. top notch job as per usuall. Anyways, alot of traditions and normalities that us older wrestling generation fans are used to are being wiped with Vinni's ass. I still have yet to re-call a 'traditional' survivor series tag match. I mean isn't that what survivor series is meant to be about? yet we get another cena vs hhh and hbk? god. sorry rambling here, but you make a very agreeable and valid point. It's is like the extreme matches in the WWE, it is almost extinct, and something needs to be done to prevent more traditions being wipped up vinnie's ass.
Nice work mate



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11/6/2009 5:28:00 PM
omen aren't you 16? what do you know or care about wrestling tradition? extreme matches aren't any part of tradition.  yes survivor series matches aren't on this ppv right now but it doesn't mean that it wont happen.

i agree that cm punk could benefit from a manager but I don't like the idea of cm punk drugging festus.  the last effective duo were edge and vickie, and before that it was edge and lita who were teamed up because of the matt hardy thing.  Ric Flair was Triple H's manager sort of... and that benefited Flair.  I think wrestlers with managers should be done but it has more effect if done sparringly.  Heyman was Lesnar's manager because Lesnar didn't have the mic skills and Lesnar benefitting from having Heyman do the talking.

   
WWEDXHardyFan

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11/7/2009 5:50:00 PM
Okay I would agree with that statement except for the fact that who cares how old I am. Since when does age matter about what type of fan or knowledge you may want to share. Maybe I have re-searched a lot of the early 70's watched the 80's and 90's and I may know a lot more than I perceive of knowing.
Although you do make valid points about both CM Punk and Festus. I will agree with you on that one. =)

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fawk yew

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11/7/2009 11:56:00 PM
wow... this blog just sucks... you say that EVERYONE had a valet or manager, if you look back the only people who actually had them were people who 1, were not over, and 2 people who were jobbers, on each level, main eventers midcarders and just plain old jobbers, 3 heels... aside from hogan having jimmy hart in wcw for a lil bit, and elizabeth in wwf, both used for the simple job of making a feud.... two other situations i can remember when people had managers was either to get them popular with the fans, only to finally make them wrestlers, and when they were creating a stable, both ideas are TIRED, and you're hating on wwe already for reusing storylines from the past...... after reading your last blog , pretty much begging for a column, I hope that you're not made a columnist, you're not very knowledgeable even about topics you try to blog about...
   
pocket

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11/8/2009 4:40:00 AM
My biggest fan!

If you actually read my blog instead of selectively reading what you want out of it, then you will know that it has a flow leading to the not yet and almost over guys who have aid from a Manager, Valet or Enforcer. Its an easy way to get a kid over.

"almost every single wrestler" is what I said...not EVERYONE..... you gotta get your quoting right dude... but hey I know what you mean..... and I'll back myself up. Look back on every star from the golden age and you will see that the majority (i'd say probably 90% if not more) had assistance....Hogan, Savage, Jake, Dibiase, Rude, Andre, Boss Man, Taker, Flair, Perfect.... and so on and so on had help at ringside

Ultimate Warrior is the only guy I can think off the top of my head, who from that time who didn't... his was the ulitimate'I walk alone' gimmick that didn't need one....

So to wrap up, I think you need to blog yourself before criticising others who contribute alot to the site... it's like trying to make a name for yourself the quick and easy way.... go take a ticket and wait in line for your number to come up! Then I'll give you your 15 minutes of fame!




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_Injustice_

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11/8/2009 9:29:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket

"almost every single wrestler" is what I said...not EVERYONE..... you gotta get your quoting right dude... but hey I know what you mean..... and I'll back myself up. Look back on every star from the golden age and you will see that the majority (i'd say probably 90% if not more) had assistance....Hogan, Savage, Jake, Dibiase, Rude, Andre, Boss Man, Taker, Flair, Perfect.... and so on and so on had help at ringside

Ultimate Warrior is the only guy I can think off the top of my head, who from that time who didn't... his was the ulitimate'I walk alone' gimmick that didn't need one....


alright... these guys had assitance, but not all at the same time.  I could make a case for the main eventers of today.  Edge had Lita and Vickie.  Triple H had Stephanie McMahon, Chyna, DX.  HBK had Diesel, Sherri, Sid, Triple H, Chyna, & Ravishing Rick Rude.  Cena had B2, Orton had Flair and Evolution, Batista had Flair and Evolution.  Undertaker had Paul Bearer & Million Dollar Man, Chris Jericho had Stephanie McMahon & Lance Cade, Big Show had Vince, Shane, & Heyman.

The only difference is the era.  Storylines move quicker than they did before so its not always feasible to have a manger.


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11/8/2009 9:52:00 AM
age does make a difference and this is one of the many blogs to come where your age will show your ignorance.

and to add on what was previously said, managers are around, but they are with superstars who we really don't care about.  Injustice mentioned valets with today's top guys.  Gangrel was Edge's associate before Edge became anything.  Michael Hayes was managing the Hardy Boyz before they became anything.  Pretty much everyone that has made it big has had a manger, valet or enforcer when they started their career and when no one cared about them.  maybe in a decade we'll care about Escobar & The Hart Dynasty.

   
_Injustice_

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11/8/2009 10:14:00 AM
and lets not forget about John Morrison aka Johnny Nitro who had Melina.

I will say this though... It's all about talent.  If you don't have the talent, you won't be able to make it, manager or not.  All these guys mentioned had the talent, or skills, to excel.  Managers will only work with talent who are able to get themselves over.  Its too early to tell, but it doesn't look like any of the mid-card talent need managers.  The Miz looks like he is trying to get a manager in Eve Torres and I think that will actually help him reach the next level.  Miz is a a solid in-ring performer and his mic skills are superb.  as of right now, Miz is the only wrestler who is worthy of a manager.

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pocket

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11/8/2009 12:19:00 PM
It will be very interesting to see where this Miz-Eve-Swagger thing will go.... I sure think that there are so many Divas that need a perpose!
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